jason schwartzman about hipsterness and jonathan ames' ironia

I think it has something to do with being self-consciously cool and ironic.

If there’s one thing I can say with absolute assertion—and some people might disagree with me, but I know it’s true because I was there—it’s that Jonathan Ames is not ironic. Nor does he even register sarcasm. I’ve been around him when he’s been talking to extremely sarcastic people, and he usually believes them. They eventually have to say, “No, I was just kidding.”